Comments on Mind u Read: 3 Idiots: Confusing a Nation!

Frankly speaking, I go to a movie for a break… jus...

2011-05-27T16:51:26.270+05:30

Frankly speaking, I go to a movie for a break… just to enjoy
and probably the effect lasts for a week or a little more, no matter I may have
watched the movie 2 mores time in TV.
Movies are generally for entertainment.
But I do like the way Amir involves himself or certain Directors who
make a movie to send a message across to the society. But out of a dozen such movies one or two are
well known rest are hardly heard off.
There are many such movies like Amir, Udaan and many more (I am not able
to recollect their names.. sply on Hindu-Muslim riots and the after effects) Its nice to see that you have gone more into
it and written a blog which hardly people do.
I would support your blog to an extent of 50:50 coz as per me you should
enjoy what you do otherwise it would be a burden. I think in all the process of Rancho and
Chatur we forget the other main character the Dean Virus. The education system is at fault.. You would
hardly find colleges giving quality education and the means of educating which
is very important like for eg the definition of Machine in the movie. Any person would grow up in their life if
they do what they like as their interest levels would be high in pursuing it - be
it sports, engineering, MBBS, home science or scientists or for that matter
movie makers. We as parents should be a guide
to our kids in choosing their path and do a good counseling on their interest
levels rather than forcing them to do what we like as Virus does. Rancho and Chatur are two extreme characters. Yes, many a times we too have commented on
guys who byheart their lessons and yet turn out to be doctors…imagine the
plight of patients. Also, here the
question is not only about the studies and career.. but to some extent he had
also covered on relations which is little important for us to maintain. Rancho
and Chatur could achieve heights but in the process how much of attention goes
to relationships and merriment? Rancho had enjoyed life from the very beginning…
but Chatur started enjoying life after he attained what he wanted.

When you have a set goal, you can achieve it keeping all the
pleasures of life intact.

Its utter Bullshit !!!!!! How can u compare these...

2010-09-23T14:17:12.323+05:30

Its utter Bullshit !!!!!!

How can u compare these 2 personalities and more so over its all about individual interest. Some people love to do clerical job like testing and coding throughout his life as they run after quick money and luxury and some love to have out of the box thinking which will bring a level of satisfaction at the end of the day, their life is something which revolves beyond these 2 above attributes.

So noway these things can be compared...BTW you have written this blog in order to portray urself out of the crowd by writing something different instead weired for me and there are people around in India who does not have any individualistic opinion of their own instead their whole life is dependent on others opinion and verdict..Typical Indian nature

So, anyways its ur life its thinking that u have penned down and its my life and my thinking to criticize it.

Different Individuals u see

Hi Mind u Read. I think u have missed the point co...

2010-07-26T12:07:48.613+05:30

Hi Mind u Read.
I think u have missed the point completely. And I completely disagree with u.
No one (least of all the film maker) was belittling the guys who join Microsoft etc. The point is we do not want to remain a back seat driver forever, we want to be in the driving seat - and for that we need passion & creativity. And that other wonderful fascet of the personality that is completely missing in r education system - EQ!!

The desired objective of the film maker was to rouse a public to passion & joy of doing, rather than merely run after money.

There is a better way than what we have today Mind U Read ... today is not the best. We need to evolve. 3 Idiots was a Call to Action

well.. the movies are the perspectives of director...

2010-07-26T02:10:29.389+05:30

well.. the movies are the perspectives of directors, which targeted the money of the movie goers by entertaining them for few hrs. its so ambitious to expect a message from a commercial movie. if the movie is really made to give a message, it could hardly entertain anybody.
.. success is a perspective. that depends what you get and what you wanted to get.
at the end of the movie,
"Rancho" became a teacher/scientist, who encourages elementary school age children to play dangerous games with electricity. and..
note that he could earn enough money to get hundreds of patents in his name, which is a very expensive affair..
"Chatur" is also a successful. he alway wanted to be a top executive through hard work and study as his guru's guided him. and he also became what he wanted to become.
actually to compare both the characters is the main problem. the director admired the character Rancho, so they gave it a very humane touch to qualify it to be a hero. and added few selfish deeds done by Chatur's character to prove him wrong.
it is like keeping the results in the notice-board. remember the conversation between Virus and Rancho.
morale of the storie..
hating/admiring the movie characters is injurious to your mental health. do what ever you want in the way you wanted it to be.

As we are discussing who was hero- Chatur or Ranch...

2010-05-28T14:45:43.897+05:30

As we are discussing who was hero- Chatur or Rancho we are forgetting one basic thing , the theme of movie- which emphasissied on the decreasing mental pressure of students.It showed if the students take the right courses and subjects that suits their interest they are likely to succeed more easily. secondly relieve yourself from tensions as it gives negative results. third never fear from the outcome of result . fourth improve your technique of studies by applying reasoning to it. Apply your mind .
Rancho was successful in his own terms only by applying what he belived, but chatur was equally successful in own terms by applying what he believed. Both were hardworking both were sucessful though in the end it was shown that rancho was more successful.

Well well Karthik...Y cant you c the movie from a ...

2010-04-07T05:27:07.828+05:30

Well well Karthik...Y cant you c the movie from a fictional point of view and not real...if movies wer made on pure reality, no one wud probly enjoy it...because then it would be the same stuff what people go through in their day to day lives.....movies are made to entertain people and not to show them what they go through daily....they are made just to refresh one's state of mind...well so its a pretty waste on time for the smart readers who know how to cope up with and distinguish between reality and entertainment...
And ofcourse i am not a 3 Idiots fan myself...these are purely my reality based views...

Well well Karthik...Y cant you c the movie from a ...

2010-04-07T05:25:22.235+05:30

i fully agree with you

2010-04-03T16:58:18.287+05:30

i fully agree with you

I am passionate about my field (Architecture) from...

2010-04-03T03:19:04.191+05:30

I am passionate about my field (Architecture) from the time I was in 6th grade. Was doing great, topper in college, doing great on professional front in India. after that shifted to US got job after one year, the new company appreciated my work a lot and then came a big recession where there are no jobs at all in construction industry.

this is the given situation.... many time I thing about shifting my profession as
want to keep working... what will you say should I get over my passion??? and find another job??

write to me at rashmi.mehadia@gmail.com

Regards,
Rashmi

There is only one problem with your analysis- The...

2010-04-03T01:34:48.869+05:30

There is only one problem with your analysis-

The movie talks about idealism, and it says that each one of us is a genius at something, thats why Chatur wasn't an ordinary man either (what is ordinary anyway), he was an ordinary engineer, yes. Because his natural inclination and interest wasn't towards it, maybe he was good at something else, which he did not pursue because he wanted the lambo, cellphone, mansion etc.

The movie only shows that phunsuk wangdu did so well because he chose an occupation which he liked and was good at, and mind you.. there is a difference between hard work and ghotting. Even phunsuk did a lot of hard work in rebuilding that plane, but you will not count it as hard work, why?

I am sorry but I do not agree with your opinion at all, and neither with the analysis.

i disagree with ur definition of passion: for me ...

2010-04-02T13:22:18.589+05:30

i disagree with ur definition of passion:
for me "passion is the thing u'd do even if u had infinite time and infinite money."

i agree entirely.Edison as u told, clearer it furt...

2010-04-02T12:40:43.433+05:30

i agree entirely.Edison as u told, clearer it further saying ""I never did anything worth doing by accident, nor did any of my inventions come by accident. They came by work."

Cudnt agree more... After watching tht sequence i...

2010-04-02T11:21:10.155+05:30

Cudnt agree more...

After watching tht sequence in which Baba Ranchod Das speaks of why he ws successfull at studies and not the other two, it made me wonder n ask "baba ranchod das meri problem kya thi college mein". i kept contemplating and almost forgot abt it in due time, with busy schedules at office.

Ur posts helps a lot in tht direction.

The movie showed that Rancho in the end, was much ...

2010-03-27T22:02:45.767+05:30

The movie showed that Rancho in the end, was much more successful than Chatur. It was a bit too idealistic, that's what I thought too, but they were proving a point. They were proving that even if you don't run after the prospects of a job, or getting the highest marks in the paper, but instead you work towards increasing your knowledge and learning to apply it, you won't only be successful but mega successful. About the part where you said that Chatur was hardworking...what made you think Rancho wasn't? Rancho had ample time to play, but he worked, too. He had fun during working, but it was work, still.
Ofcourse, if you're going to become a painter instead of an engineer, you will earn much less. But at the end of it, this is where your values come in. What do you want? A bigger car, or greater satisfaction? I agree that there are people who choose what to do in their lives because it provides them with stability to be able to raise a family, but really, what fields don't allow that? They might allow it to a lesser degree, but they allow it, too. I think a middle road is always possible.
I don't know what gave you the impression that Chatur was the happy one. Just because he had a bigger house, a shinier car, a wife doesn't mean he was happier. What I interpreted was that he was struggling with the "who's doing what" insecurity complex, and working like a dog because the stage which he was at was just not enough for him. Rancho, on the other hand, like you pointed out was a loner, and yet at peace, doing what he enjoyed.

"3 IDIOTS" - the name itself suggests th...

2010-03-09T02:15:26.778+05:30

"3 IDIOTS" - the name itself suggests that its not about any serious characters but 3 nincompoops. But if we watch the movie we find 2 serious characters who r Virus and Chatur along with the 3 idiots. I think Rancho [1 of the 3 idiots] to be a greater hero than Virus because he had the power to win the hearts of the other 2 idiots and change their lives in his unique but idiotic way. Virus made every student think that they were on a war with success and there is no place for the weaker ones. But its a fact that in this so called war many students are loosing themselves both physically, mentally and psychologically and its really rare and lucky for those weaker ones to have friends like Rancho who hold their hands and show them the way to make a place for themselves in this world.

As far as Chatur's character is concerned, his way of getting good marks was to break others concentration before exams by supplying 18+ books. Whereas, Rancho was not at all interested in competing with others, but instead, he focussed on getting 100% knowledge from his books itself which led him to the top of the success platform. Moreover Rancho did not forget to live his life [2 the maxxx] , cared for his friends n did a lot for them without even caring for his exam next morning. And most important of all Rancho did not show off or looked down upon Chatur even after scoring the top in the exams. All this suggests that Rancho, apart from being a good student, was also a very good human being. It is really very difficult to succeed in life both in terms of marks and money, but it is even more difficult to help the weaker ones grow along with you.

Last but not the least, Rancho's passions as depicted through his character in the movie, were not like Chatur's [ Lamborghini, or the 3 million dollar house with swimming pool inside,etc]. But his passion was to built his own simple and cheap machines which would be of some use to the mankind in future and thus lead him to be a scientist [Mr WANGDU] jisko dekh kar CHATUR KA TOH BALATKAAR HO GAYA!!! So "ALL IS WELL" in the movie.

liked your post...i liked the movies as well...i b...

2010-02-22T17:39:09.163+05:30

liked your post...i liked the movies as well...i believe, it has a great message for all, not just ranhos out there, but for other people as well.
What is important is to set a goal, (that you believe in, even something which people may think is totally weird!) and achieve that by giving it all it takes. Rancho, Chatur did it...we must try to do that too in our small or big ways!
NishanthB

yeah i do agree with this.... u really need many c...

2010-02-07T22:40:45.834+05:30

yeah i do agree with this.... u really need many chaturs for a rancho.... ;-)

No problem Kartik. I did not mean disrespect. I al...

2010-02-07T17:53:21.927+05:30

No problem Kartik. I did not mean disrespect. I also did not bother reading other posts because they would perpetuate and justify the same logic. ( Not sure if you changed your stance..)

However, I think a few points were very unjustified. How do you know that Chatur's wife would not have anything compelling to share?? or for that matter who said Chatur was not a hero. Did we not scoff at bookworms during our school/college days? Yet, who said that bookworms are not successful in life? I think each one of us does thinks is best and is successful in his/her own way. There is no right or wrong there but there are consequences.

The whole point is.. it is not about who is a bigger hero.. and we do not have to be judgmental.( with reference to this post only). We need Chaturs, Ranchos, you, everyone. You were not wrong but I think you got carried away. :)

Having said that, I appreciate the fact that you are bold enough to share your thoughts. I remain, strictly, anonymous!!

Hi, above anonymous user. Sorry i confused you so ...

2010-02-07T16:17:51.762+05:30

Hi, above anonymous user. Sorry i confused you so much. Looks like you didn't read my followup posts on the same topic. Please read for your good health. I don't want anyone to be confused or loose their mind because of me. :-))))

I am confused sorry, amused... are you trying to b...

2010-02-07T15:57:41.869+05:30

I am confused sorry, amused... are you trying to be profound or practical or perhaps philosophical?

- First don't get into too much analysis. ( If you get economics, politics, social structures etc. you will end up being muddled and without hope!) The movie was pure fun.. enjoyable and had moments that we all like to have in our lives.. However, people also like movies like Munnabhai series, Chak De India, etc..which had different things to tell. Each of them probably gave you a lot of opportunity to do a reality check on them too.

- It is also funny that you think that one should take sides. In movies and in life, we live & see contrasts and contradictions.. it does not mean we take sides. So, enjoy life as it unfolds.

- I think the movie has it own way of conveying some basic things we need in our education system.. and for our children. Instead of doing a reality check on fiction, think and blog of ways how we can bring back curiosity into our children's minds, how we can enable children to think critically in a world where they are told what to do and how to live.

Oops.. I got too serious yaar..
All I want to say is.. have fun, learn and try to inspire.. BE AN IDIOT..

Hahahahhaha....They made a movie to make money and...

2010-02-05T12:45:00.134+05:30

Hahahahhaha....They made a movie to make money and all are discussing the logic here. How funny. There's no hard fast rule to live a life. Take it as it comes..There won't be IFs and BUTs..I don't have time to analyze it even.

In my view that is what the film is hoping to prop...

2010-02-02T17:35:26.405+05:30

In my view that is what the film is hoping to propagate.

Humanity has gone through various stages of evolut...

2010-02-02T17:30:13.925+05:30

Humanity has gone through various stages of evolution.From the agrarian to the industrial revolution and all have a reflection in the type of education system we choose. Education and economy cannot ever be seperated.In other words- those that provide jobs, provide a livelihood and those that seek jobs want to be useful to those that provide jobs, therefore educational systems are a result of the age of the economy we live in(agrarian or industrial)

Having said that it is apparent, the way we run our schools in this economy has a lot to do with the industrial revolution, which needed factory workers. They have to wear a uniform, work to the sounds of a bell, perform repetitive action, mistakes are stigmatized as they are expensive in factories, punctuality is of prime importance because of task interdependance, one teacher is in front of a 40-50 member class much like an assembly line. We needed factory workers.

We now are slowly moving into the knowledge revolution. But what value is information or knowledge without its utility and therefore only few businesses can sustain models purely on knowledge(to small to call a revolution)..therefore the argurment that we are moving into the creative revolution or as we Indians call it the JUGAAD revolution!!
Change is the only constant...and innovation and creativity is of paramount focus. Thats the need for education.

2010-02-02T10:46:12.330+05:30

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Gud one.

2010-02-02T06:52:29.518+05:30

Gud one.